The political establishment is trying to paint the ICAC revelations as just the exceptional work of a few rouge operators. Rubbish. The system is rotten to the core.
You get the sense from the ICAC hearings that there isn’t an honest politician in NSW.
And I do enjoy watching these pollies squirm, and all the ridiculous excuses that come out. My favourite is “I paid a Liberal slush fund 7 grand, not for access, but help developing a website for my pub.”
Turn it up.
And the public is left scratching their heads. Everyone knew about Obeid and the stench in Labor, but now the ICAC net is drawing in a string of Liberal politicians, often with links to the exact same characters that got Labor in trouble.
More than ever, it seems the only difference between the two major parties is the colour of their shiny ties.
And with Premier Barry O’Farrell ousted by the most infamous bottle of wine in Australian history, incoming premier Mike Baird was quick to go into damage control.
I don’t care what political badge you have … If you have done wrong and ICAC has shown you have done wrong, then I am your worst nightmare,
Note the conditional “if ICAC shows you have done wrong”… presumably that means if you don’t get caught, you’ve got nothing to worry about. Just keep doing wrong.
The actions we take will be strong, they'll be swift and the community will see that we're determined to fix and ensure that events that have been unravelling for many weeks down at ICAC do not happen again.
Check out the narrative here. There’s been a couple of rouge operators, a few bad apples, and we plan to flush them out so our squeaky clean democracy can get back to business.
What a crock.
What ICAC is showing us is that there’s a total system failure.
But even then, that depends on what side of the fence you’re on. If you’re a member of the public, trusting that your politicians are going to legislate in your best interest, the system’s bust.
But on the other hand, if you’re a corporation looking for ways to rig the political system in your favour, or a politician looking to get the edge on your opponents, the system’s working perfectly.
It’s only now, ICAC has trashed the cosy con you were selling the public, and it’s all got a bit awkward.
And here’s the ‘big lie’. A lie so big and shameless that people can’t even imagine that you’re lying. And that’s the idea that corporate donations to political parties don’t corrupt the political system.
This gumpf gets trotted out year after year. A corporation makes a donation to a political party out of the goodness of their heart, out of a desire to see the ideal of democracy flourish in this great country of ours.
Garbage. Corporations know exactly what they’re paying for. Access and favourable treatment. They expect a certain return on investment.
This is so obvious as to be blinding, but we will still pretend that the bidding war that makes up campaign donations doesn’t pervert the political process.
Of course it does. Perverting the political process in your favour is exactly the point.
And this is what ICAC is showing us. It’s just lifting the lid on the seedy latrine of money, slush funds and political access.
A lot of the flack at ICAC is around slush funds set up to secretly channel money from developers to political parties. Developers, legally, aren’t allowed to make donations.
But why is it just developers? How materially different are developers to hoteliers, or construction houses, or water companies – or anyone with a significant amount riding on political decisions?
This is the system we’ve got. If you want favourable treatment, you can buy it from your pollie. Developers still wanted to be part of the system – they just had to go underground.
And so this is what ICAC is forcing us to look at – the system itself. And to see it for the corrupt farce that it is.
But I think this is also one of the grand myths of modern society – that politicians are there to serve the public interest. I doubt if that’s ever been true. Politics has always been about protecting certain interests. Once it was the landed gentry, now it’s big business.
But it’s a myth that we, as a society, seem all too happy to perpetuate. Maybe we just can’t face the actual reality – that our political system is just another thing trying to disempower us and hold us down.
But to get ahead in life, we need to drop these illusions. See the world for what it is. Once we’ve done that, with a bit of balls and some free-thinking, we can maybe start improving out lot.
But one thing’s for sure, the system is not going to do it for us.
Keith says
I’ve said it before; a lot of them are a bunch of money grabbing, sleazy slime balls, in it for themselves and their mates. Not all of them admittedly but the corruption is so endemic that it eventually taints those not involved. They all have connections, depending on the colour of their ties, with corrupt union officials or corrupt business men. They give jobs to members of their little boys clubs (eg the NLPs business adviser, that climate warming denialist idiot) and listen to the rich lobby groups. And the worst part? They don’t seem to think they are doing anything wrong or they think they won’t be caught! OK, that’s my spray for today!
Nathan says
“climate warming denialist idiot” I don’t know who you are referring to but the whole Global Warming woops Climate Change is the biggest Govt. corruption con we have seen so your comments about corruption are ironic. They didn’t think they were doing anything wrong but they have been caught out and exposed. Get over to JoNova.com and find out. Or you could just keep your blinders on!
Freeman on the land, not a dead-man under the sea. says
I AGREE TOTALLY, A GREAT EXCUSE FOR STEALING A BILLION OR TWO OUT OF OUR POCKETS FOR THE UNITED NATIONS…
AND A GREAT WAY FOR THEM TO FINALLY TAX US FOR BREATHING…
Jenny Kennedy says
Exactly! Both of you
Richard B says
I wonder if the bad apples are rouge(red) or green? Either way they are ROGUES!!
Down through millennia of recorded history, in all societies, this sort of actual or attempted corruption by vested interests has been happening. No amount of chest beating or tub-thumping is ever gonna change it.
The best we can hope for is to live in a reasonable country like Australia where we at least have some objective and powerful checks and balances to “keep the bastards honest” (with a nod of thanks to Don Chipp). And be smart enough to be on our guard and not taken in. “Wise as serpents, harmless as doves” (with a nod to Jesus)
EK says
Thank you for this as it is highlighting some problems in this country. Politicans are not the public servants and they are member of board of directors. Prime minister of this country is CEO!! of this corporation.
COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA registered in the
UNITED STATES SECURITIES EXCHANGE COMMISSION as CIK (0000805157).
COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA
CIK (0000805157)
SIC: 8880 – American Depositary Receipts
State location: DC | Fiscal Year End: 0630
Business Address
1601 MASSACHUSETTS AVE NW
C/O AUSTRALIAN EMBASSY
WASHINGTON DC 20036
So I ask you what/who are we? We are all stocks/slaves (like cow or sheep) of a listed corporation. If you do not believe please do some search and you will find it for yourself. Remember slaves are not entitled to own anything. Do you think that your real estate properties are yours? They are not You do not own anything. Please wake up pleople. Please read one of your Property Title carefully. Search for “ESTATE FEE SIMPLE” and find out its meaning. Crown owns everything.
Wake up my friends…. Nothing is as it seems.
Freeman on the land, not a dead-man under the sea. says
As a former Police Officer I was shocked when first shown this information over two years ago. I spent over 18 months trying to prove it wrong, only to find it was correct. The Federal Government of Australia is not de jure, and has stepped outside of the Commonwealth Constitution of Australia 1901 setting aside our constitution sine die. Without any consultation, or referendum with the people of the Commonwealth of Australia.
The corporation you mentioned for the Australian Government is listed as a “foreign government of political subdivisions.” In the statutory legislation of the Australian System of Government, there is no man or woman of gender. It is therefore a body legislated to be operated by persons of neutral gender – in other words ‘no-one’ operates it. It is a private business, operated by ‘no-one’, and has no personal assets , instead using and seizing your assets for the purposes of borrowing and its private internal accumulation of wealth. That statutory legislation of the Australian System of Government protects a neutral gender entity from any legal action. The Courts of the Australian Government require no signatures to validate an order. ‘No-one’ can sign a document. ‘No-one’ can hear the request for justice from the natural persons found in the Preamble to the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act. “Under the Australian System of Government, there is no redress in ‘Australian Courts’ for relief from injustices
………” When a private business does not recognize the natural person, it has no ability to honor human rights or common law. And the Queen, a natural woman, is also able to be
‘unseen’ by the statutory legislation of the private business known as the Australian Government.
That is the real state of the Nation… Two Governments, Two Queens, Two Coat of Arms,
one representing the people the other a corporate identity bound to the Corporations Act with absolutely no legal responsibility to the Australian flesh and blood people.
We need more people like EK until the rest of Australia wakes up the Hegelian nightmare our politicians have created and profited from at the expense of all Australians.
EK says
Thank you Freeman. With gratitude, I salute you too as you are correct.
Dimitri Katsimberis says
But there’s no corruption in Australia…(So not true!) And this head bashing Budget? What a farse…
I think the current rhetoric in the the current economic climate is a recipe for economic disaster.
Bottom line is, If people haven’t got jobs, and those that do have jobs don’t have job security, then adjusting their expenses is just a short term fix.
Unless we fix the bigger issue of sustainable economic creation and commercial realism, the benefits of the cost cutting/saving solution will be short lived.
I also believe that the population has already paid too much for the mistakes of the banksters worlwide. The populous in Australia has already had to pay 9 billion to prop up the Reserve bank for the risks taken.
I think the banks with all their profits need to pay a “Bankster Tax” calculated as a percentage of the profits they make.
The banks should then be compelled to use their investment banking arms to invest and lend to infrastructure economy building investments, that will produce future income and keep people employed and the country growing and prosperous.
The populous also needs to become more commercially aware, efficient and productive and move away from the mind numbing “crutch” of entitlement.
The only way to do this is to have an investment mindset created and empower, educate and reward people for this behavior.
Governments need to become more commercially savvy and we should not allow in experienced political carreerists to run a large commercial entity known as Australia.
Wake up Australia! Wake up world!
Freeman on the land, not a dead-man under the sea. says
I thought they were politically savvy, after all they are a corporation masquerading as de jure Gov’t.
Where just stupid enough to want to believe they are still the Federal Government of the Commonwealth of Australia… When they are de facto!
Mark James says
Found this definition on sa.gov.au – thanks EK!
Fee Simple: The most common freehold estate granted by the crown. An estate in fee simple is the greatest estate in land, and is for practical purposes the equivalent to absolute ownership. Note, however, that in Australia, no person other than the crown can ‘own’ land absolutely.
ed says
Thank you MARK. Well done.
Garry mann says
I couldn’t agree more!!!!!!!!!!!
Robert Dyson says
The political system is past its use by date. The inequitable taxation decisions that the politicians make is an example. eg Howard and Costello changing the superannuation system to not tax superannuation pensions and earnings for the over 60’s. This was only done to try and win the 2007 election.
A much better system would be to have an empowered non self interest board that set taxation law. The board would operate the same as a company with individual retirements and appointments. This creates a flowing ongoing decision making process. The influence of vested interest groups need to be removed from the process.
Mel says
“Well said” to all of the above! The entire system is a sick joke & farce.
If only there was a chance of changing political-humanity’s penchant for greed, with the born-to-rule mentality of those “at the top” who wish to keep their fellow human beings down & kick them while they are there – all in the name of profit… Unfortunately that’s been happening for as long as we have recorded history & shows no signs of slowing down!
Thankfully “the people” are gradually waking up to the BS & spin. We just need to remember that every time a pollie opens their mouth, they are lying in some way, shape, or form to protect their own vested interests & they are but one bottle of plonk away from falling off that pedestal!.. 😉
william crawford says
Thank you for showing the “it’ll be all right mob” that it will not be All right.they are allready being scammed. The Westminster system is flawed. Politicians and public servants are unaccountable under the Westminister system. The 4 years between elections and politicial parties is too course I have experianced a much better system. I lived in Switzerland for a whIle, I witnessed their system it’s called “Direct Democracy” with the right to recall. It works like this-. The electrate vote for an individual. Once a month he has to report back to his electroate on his activities he has done on their behalf, at a public meeting.If he has not performed to their satisfaction then a bielection can be called following a referendum orginised via the internet. If he is voted out by the electerate he is dismissed from the parliment and leaves immediatly with no pension or any other perk.thedirect result of this is that he is held accountable not to party powerbrookers but tothepeople who elected him to reprisent them.the government of theday is elected by the politicians.again if the ministersfail to perform to satisfaction then a referendum is called among the politicians and a vote made to keep theminister or replace him.in this system there is no politicialparties, but allies among politicians can be acceipted so long as the politician gets the approval of his electrate the bottom line is that every one in this country are made accountable for their own actions
Freeman on the land, not a dead-man under the sea. says
Since when have we been operating as a Westminster system not since 1972 at least!
aussiesquid says
The old saying that “people get the type of government they deserve”, is most assuredly true!!
Political parties are the death knell of democracy, mainly because the people are not mature enough for a true democracy!! Like children it’s all “me me me”, nowhere do we see altruistic realism!!
In this climate the “man in the long overcoat offering lollies to all the children”, can run rife, corrupting the country at will!!
Political parties divide and conquer aided and abetted by corporations and media empires, which are nothing but fronts for media corporations!!
The graveyard of democracy!!
Daz says
They are all crooks Left or Right, tared with the same brush….or tie. The so called ‘good guys’ just haven’t been caught yet.
ian townsend says
The one thing i can say is at least in this country we still have checks and balances in place -ie- ICAC .or are they just mentioning what most people have allways known and that is jobs for the boys !!!. George Carlin said it best . , ” ITS A BIG CLUB , AND WE ARE NOT IN IT “!!!!!!.
Rudolf Ruyter says
Hi all
I guess that in Australia we can complain & whine all we like about or corrupt political system , without retribution, and for that we are lucky.
When power & money combine there will always be corruption, no matter what system is used, but in Australia, when corruption is finally exposed there are always consequences and heads do roll.
Anyway…it is the only system we have, and unlike in other countries, we do not kill each other between and during elections to advance our political causes.
While our system is not perfect, it is all we have, so lets make the best of what we have, and remember that only action, involvement & education will change things….just complaining will get us nowhere.
Regards
Rudolf.
Freeman on the land, not a dead-man under the sea. says
Their are plenty of people fighting the system, most of them are now bankrupt or sitting in jail…
As for political redress the only course of action will be to drag the Government back inside our Constitution. Until then nothing will change because by their rules as the managers and us the chattel they don’t have to.
How many people know that Her Majesty the Queen and the live person have been defaulted in an effort to restore our rights and legal standing?
Probably no one here…
Ken says
Spot on mate. One way might be to give the bastards an equal no. of seats each so then, and just then, they might work something out for the good of all mankind.
Freeman on the land, not a dead-man under the sea. says
For those of you who have know idea what we are talking about and still believe that the Federal Government of Australia is the same thing as the Federal Government of the Commonwealth of Australia or that the Governor General represents the Westminster system of any Government operating in Australia think again…
You could try fighting for your “Common Law rights” in Court, good luck with that, or trying to prove that the Governor General does have Letters Patent as required by our constitution of 1901… good luck with that also.
The Fed Govt of OZ has done a damn good job of masquerading as de-jure government. That’s a nice way of saying bullshitting us. They kept all the trappings of power whilst creating their very own Fascist Ponzi scheme… And I mean fascism in the true sense of the word.
If you still don’t understand go to: http://www.truth-now.net
By the way, the government wouldn’t know what democracy was if it hit them with a bus.
WAKE UP AUSTRALIA…!
Nathan says
“that climate warming denialist idiot” Ironic that someone commenting on corruption then denigates someone who is trying to keep corrupt government accountable. Get over to JoNova.com and find out the corruption in global warming Keith.
In every system (such as ‘democracy) there are checks and balances. In Australia one of the check and balances is the media and they have and are significantly letting us down in their lack of keeping them to account because of bias and agenda. Marxism long ago targeted our teaching facilities and Journalism was a very specific target. Everyone is biased and it’s the variety of views that keep a balance, each viewpoint testing the other’s opinion exposing the weakpoints. The ABC is overly dominated by marxist left wingers (mostly voting green). The Canberra press gallery barely kept the past Labor/Green govt. accountable for anything and allowed them a free reign to quickly throw us into significant debt (putting aside arguments about whether debt is real etc because this is the system we live under). People like Mark ‘how can we help’ Riley who deliberately work with the socialist side of govt. Who knows about the fraud committed by Julia Gillard? Canberra press gallery deliberately played it down and kept quiet on it. Which of them is investigating that Australia is now run like a corporation?
You cannot expect Govt. to keep themselves accountable. The details of the system will not allow it. What we need is a media, free of the manipulations of philosophy (socialism or capitalism) honestly examining what govt is up to and reporting without favour.
Freeman on the land, not a dead-man under the sea. says
The federal Govt of Australia is not de jure, does not have the checks and balances in place, is not a Government as defined under the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Australia 1901, is not a Govt of the people for the people, by the people…
It is a private corporation masquerading as de jure Govt. Therefore has no real authority. Its only power is the proof of force when it is using ignorant Australians against each other.
It is a private corporation managing the affairs of Australians for their own benefit. Welcome to the NWO.
tommy says
there’s another one gone. the police minister’s resigned. at this rate they’ll be all out before tea.
Freeman on the land, not a dead-man under the sea. says
THE ICAC DID NOT STOP THE FORMATION OF THE COALITION OF AUSTRALIAN GOV’T, DID NOT STOP THE CROWN BEING REMOVED FROM WA, OR THE LOSS OF SEPARATION OF POWERS IN QLD. DID NOT STOP OUR COMMON LAW RIGHTS FROM BEING REMOVED OR OUR LOSS LEGAL STANDING AS PEOPLE SO WHAT GOOD ARE THEY OTHER THAN A USEFUL DISTRACTION FOR THOSE WHO STILL BELIEVE THAT THIS FOREIGN REGISTERED GOVT IS ACTUALLY AUSTRALIAN… AND LAWFUL?
WHAT A JOKE…
shane says
go Johnno
Geoffrey Berry says
NSW once known as the First State now The STATE OF CORRUPTION
Don says
So true all of the above, and so concerning that there is not the usual contradictions so often posted on Jon’s views. I have watched for decades as Australia’s power has crumbled and witnessed the reasons for this as the NWO, greed along with other reasons.
Since the Whitlam era we have had governments sign our rights and fortunes away in hundreds of treaties that have mostly never been presented to the public by our very own public servants that we pay to preserve our futures.
Someone mentioned above that people have been jailed for fighting the system. Whatever you may think of Pauline Hanson, she was one of them. She was gaining far too much popularity opposing the current system of operation and was jailed on minor charges that others guilty of the same have slipped through the net with. Even more sus was her release from jail pre parole time, due to public outcry. Maybe this was an order of the UN, seeing as our puppet government is apparently usually controlled by them
I have often wondered if the constitution still holds good on 100,000 signatures can force a referendum…interesting thought.
Clive says
There are some enlightening posts on this forum, thank you all.
The politicians are living the good life at the expense of ordinary Australians. Will it ever stop? Not while they can award themselves their own pay and conditions!
The problem is that there seems to be no real and viable “competitor” to the current political and economic systems, even though we know they are disintegrating.
It doesn’t matter which party you vote for, they are all individually and collectively on the same gravy train and not one of them is willing to personally accept any of the sacrifices that they would force on to the electorate. Even if we take up Joe Hockey’s offer of voting the liberals out at the next election, do you seriously imagine that the next government would overturn the changes? Wasn’t it Julia Gillard who was paid more than the president of the U.S?
The people of Australia (and the world) deserve better and fairer governance. Unfortunately no one (including me) seems to be able to proffer a viable alternative. We need government that serves all of the people. Communism doesn’t work; neither does capitalism as we know it.
Someone made a comment to me recently, “If Australia goes to war we will be in serious trouble; we don’t even manufacture our own weapons.” Spending $12bn on foreign jet fighters may seem extravagant but we need to have the ability to defend our borders.
The Labor government created unnecessary debt with their wasteful poorly managed stimulus schemes but at least some of the money was spent in Australia. Sure, we would have had an economic slow-down without it but that would ultimately be better, we would emerge from it in a stronger position.
Other concepts that I find interesting and worthy of debate:
Adopt a flat rate taxation system.
Religious organisations should pay tax.
Reduce overseas aid.
Refugees should not be given free handouts; when I landed on these shores I had to work and pay my way and I have never claimed any welfare, it should be the same for refugees.
Abolish the paid parental leave scheme and baby bonus.
Abolish State Governments. (Federal and Local is enough.)
Phase out negative gearing and all other incentives – if your business makes a loss, cop it sweet and rearrange your business structure. It is bizarre in the extreme that taxpayers should subsidise any loss making venture.
Reinstate National Service – starting with those on welfare for longer than 12 months; enlist them into the Army Reserve for example.
People object to being forced to do anything but they are willing to be led to do exactly the same thing.
The new government has been given a chance and they have already shown us that they cannot be trusted. If the government needs more money why don’t they take it from those banks that have been announcing record profits? The problem with raising tax rates is that is a disincentive to increase earnings. (Or to put it another way, it is an incentive to evade taxation.) The government shouldn’t be causing more hardship for those people who have worked and paid taxes all their lives. The aged pension should not be regarded as welfare; it is financial support for the elderly in their time of need. Some are fortunate to be self funded retirees; when you can no longer fund your retirement, then you will qualify for assistance.
Finally, notwithstanding the tragedy of the loss of those on board, why is the Abbott government spending millions of dollars searching for a Malaysian aeroplane, while at the same time saying we have to cut expenditure?
Freeman on the land, not a dead-man under the sea. says
Abolish state Gov’t you say, well you should first be aware that local government and I use the term loosely is unconstitutional, remember that referendum they were going to have… that didn’t happen!
Well you should know that the are two tiers to our constitution not three. Also that State Government is “Local Government” they are double dipping… all those rates you play for extra things are a form of tax on your land which our constitution does not allow. Not allowed under a Fee Simple ownership of land. I thought that everyone would get the big hint with the formation of “COAG” The Coalition of Australian Government, as they had no right to form this, but most Australians just nodded their heads and said yeah ok.
Bah Sheeple BAH! All this has happened within 1 generation and they have largely gotten away with it, god help us with the next generation as they wont have a clue what has transpired.
Those poliies must be having a fair old Crack at our stupidity…
EK says
Dear Clive,
Well done. Your opinions have real substance and merits for everybody to take notice. I think you are awake and aware too and this is wonderful.
In relation to Abbott’s spending money for Malaysian airplane, it is a waste of taxpayers’ money as there has been NO and will never be any real evidence of this “missing airplane” to be found. There are very advanced technologies that were used to make it “disappear”. Anyone who is interested in this, can find reliable information is on the web. Please do your homework and take whatever resonates with you. (there is too much dis-information on the web too).
Abbott (CEO), like any world leaders, is doing what he has been “ordered”. Sadly most people are getting their information from TV (biggest mind control tool in your living room). Please:
TURN OFF YOUR TV..
and stop reading all/most newspapers.
Thank you.
Ken. says
Clive, if we would have emerged a better and stronger nation without Rudd’s stimulus, why did that great man, Laurie Oakes, say that Rudd saved us from the GFC. Open up both your eyes, eh? and stop betting 50 cents each way.
Clive says
Ken,
Sorry for the late response. We haven’t been saved from the GFC – but it’s effects were saved until later. That “later” has become “now” according to what Joe Hockey is saying.
China’s stimulus also cushioned the effects of the GFC by increasing their demand for our minerals.
Clive
Jack says
Up until this ICAC investigation I thought Rake was starting to get way over THE TOP and impossible to believe some of the story lines.
I no longer hold that view, Cal McGregor looks like he really is a saint.
Emperor's new clothes says
I have to say, I’m having so much fun reading these posts this morning. It’s the most fun I’ve had for a long time! Why? Because it’s great to see some people waking up and the horror on their faces when they see the conundrum they’ve lived with all those years without even realising it.
I’ve been there and it wasn’t much fun at the time.
The emperor’s new clothes isn’t so much a secret any more!
The funniest thing is when people think that another government will make it better. The truth is no one else can be entrusted, at this time to take care of you. Only you can take care of yourself. How? By leading a righteous life, seeking only the truth and showing others the way. This is a slow process but it will happen. It has started to happen already and no one can stop it.
Enlightenment can’t be stopped just chose where you want to be. In the dark or with the light! Seek and you shall find as they say!
May the light be with you as I’m sure it will.
Paul M says
Aren’t you all sick of politicians who can just never give a straight answer?
I know it’s always been that way with most politicians. But this childish current “score points off the enemy at every opportunity” game they keep playing is really getting on my nerves. And getting in the way of running the country effectively. In Germany they sometimes have Grand Coalitions when both parties work together to form a government. And often these Grand Coalitions are remarkably effective and cohesive governments. That get things done.
But this traditionally adversarial mindset of our politicians has badly degenerated into a “Did so. Did not. Did so. Did not” quality of debate, which means we never get anything constructive done in this country. (We of course ape this off our American friends, where it has also created legislative chaos, but it is apparently enshrined in our legislation that we have to do everything the Americans do, usually twenty years after it has already proven disastrous there. And of course importing the lowest common denominator American media model is proving just as disastrous for intelligent debate.)
Especially galling with our current crop of pollies, particularly the younger, less experienced ones is the way they ignore interviewers’ questions and speak only from the spiel they’ve cooked up with their PR teams. And then when pulled up by the interviewer to get back to the question, say “Just let me finish!” and of course continue with the spiel and keep ignoring the question, which was always their intention. They only ever answer what they want to answer, which is the spiel. And it’s always meaningless – and the opposing party’s fault.
Does anyone doubt that we have exactly the government we deserve? Why do we keep voting for these kindergarten kids? We should wipe the floor of all of them in the next election (with the exception of people like Turnbull, whom people like because he actually treats interviewers and audiences as if they have IQs over 60). It would do this country good to get a whole host of independents in who would have to work together. The Liberals hated the two independents who controlled the lower house in the last parliament, but those two showed more integrity than the major parties have shown for the last 30 years. If we had more of them, rather than just two, the major parties couldn’t lie about the role of the independents, branding them as wreckers and turncoats instead of what they really were – people who held these major party liars to account!
New three-word slogan for the next election: “Wipe the floor!”
Jack says
I agree entirely, we should have more independents like Windsor, I hope that Clive can be the one, he does worry me a little bit, I knew him quite well last century when he had no money, now that he has money I’m a little wary of his intentions and motivations at times but he does have a good heart, he needs it to carry him around.
If you listen to him speak, I think it’s the way he really feels and thinks(he is a very clever man though so I’m not totally convinced), when you hear a Labor or Liberal politician speak you know it’s the party line or just like Dr. Davis here in Qld you get the sack from Adolf Hitler Newman.
We need more different voices not GROUP THINK.
No Cheers
Tom says
WOW!!!
Denis Mason says
Back in 1976 the Union for the Rail System Retirement Fund used the Superannuation funds of the employees loosing millions and the union were forced to get the employees to contribute to the SASS union thereby loosing hundreds of thousands to each transferring employee, these are what Liberal and Labor used as funds in the early years, now it does not seem appropriate that the Parlimentary members give each member 16000$ rise and continue to get their Federally Funded Pension irregardless of their personal finances but? Wait for it! The poorer people 80% of the population have to suffer in silence whilst the Government rips and tears their small pensions and entitlements from them, next you will have to let your house out to the Government whilst you are placed in rental homes, rent to Government! What next.
I believe it’s time to let the Prime Minister and his budget hungry ministers enough is enough, they are working for us and in turn should suffer the same pension rights as the normal people.
Nicholas Tomlin says
If you believe in religion you’ll believe in politics… I can’t contribute as all that lies before is very, very true.
Yes, we should fire them all, and when a politician does wrong – fire their sorry arse.. no super, no further entitlements, nothing.